Quite clever


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  1. Nick, do you really care who gets elected? I do´t think any of the two guys are ready for the mess left behind by W. And besides we all know what happens to newly elected presidents in the US….(Big room, cigars, TV screen, new angle of Kennedy shooting, any questions?)

  2. I do care who gets elected although I don’t think it will make much difference to how the US runs it’s foreign policy or domestic economy. However, I’d much rather see Obama than McCain in power because he’d be marginally less hawkish abroad and a little more compassionate at home. However, anyone who thinks Obama will revolutionise the American government will be sorely disappointed. Unlike candidates like Ralph Nader, Obama has received millions in corporate funding for his election campaign and it is with them that his priorities will lie after the election, not the American people. Like all US presidents in the military-industrial complex, his allegiances have been bought before he ever reaches the White House.

  3. I guess if Obama didn’t get the corporate funding then he would not even be in the running…Like Ralph Nader. Not that it makes it right but hey.

  4. Exactly. So there should be no illusions that it’s a democratic election. It’s a competition between corporate America to elect who they wish to represent their interests against the the American people.

  5. Maybe a little too cynical…but we all love the corporations…or at least we like to consume what they offer us. Did you get the Maccie D’s in the end?

  6. Yes I did have the Maccie D’s and I felt used afterwards. There’s nothing wrong with enjoying what corporations have to offer. After all, their job is to produce things that people want or can use. What’s wrong is when they yield too much political power. In a democratic society, they would not be allowed to enter that arena.I’m not trying to come across as cynical about Obama. As when Tony Blair came to power, I would like to believe that Obama will herald some positive change in American politics. However, until American people have power over economic policy (i.e. real decision making power over their workplaces and local economies) it doesn’t really matter who is in the White House. They can be given all the political voting rights they like but as long as they remain divorced from economic policy, their votes don’t count for much.

  7. I think it can be wrong to enjoy what corporations have to offer if they in turn damage the environment we live in and manipulate market economies to benefit themselves. I agree with the problem of the democratic process in the USA. How different is it in the UK or Spain for that matter.

  8. I agree although I don’t think all corporations are destroying the environment and manipulating the economy but a handful of huge ones surely are. The democratic situation in Spain or the UK isn’t much different – perhaps in the US it’s just slightly more extreme and obvious.

  9. but one of the key things about the obama campaign is that its contributions are coming from millions and millions of ordinary working americans. it’s people power more than corporate power that’s sending him to the white house. as for how radical he’ll be, however, is a different story. it’s hard to tell exactly what he intends to do as policies never really get talked about in the run up to elections.

  10. It's actually corporate power rather than people power that's sending Obama to the White House. You can see his top ten donors here – among them Goldman Sachs, Citigroup and JPMorgan:http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?id=N00009638&cycle2=2008&goButt2.x=12&goButt2.y=7&goButt2=SubmitIncidentally, many of the same corporations have donated to McCain's but just less – hedging their bets.It's true that Obama has attracted more public donors than anyone else but that's precisely because he's selling a desperate American public hope which I don't believe he will deliver.

  11. if you look at his funding now then of course it’s going to be mainly from the big corporations. that’s becuase he’s the democratic candidate and wheover is standing for the democrats would receive massive amounts from big business.but if you look at the funding that was given specifically to him, rather than his party, when he was running to get the democtatic nomination then you see a very broad base of contributions from individuals who feel strongly that he’s a man who can really change things. and that level of public opinion has snowballed and is what’s given him the momentum to be where he is now.

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